{"id":90619,"date":"2021-03-09T08:14:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-09T13:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/keriritenour.com\/grace\/church-adherence\/"},"modified":"2023-10-06T22:18:49","modified_gmt":"2023-10-07T02:18:49","slug":"church-adherence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/keriritenour.com\/grace\/church-adherence\/","title":{"rendered":"Church Adherence"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">The\nfollowing post has been fully downloaded with reply provided by Pastor Raker, his\nobservations in <strong><span style=\"color:#0071a1;\">blue\ntext<\/span><\/strong>; Mick Mooney\u2019s original text in black:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Why I Choose\nto Live My Faith Outside of Organized Religion<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">By Mick\nMooney<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Posted:\n12\/17\/2014 3:08 pm EST Updated: 12\/17\/2014 3:59 pm EST&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Let me start\nby making my premise clear: Believing in God doesn&#8217;t mean I believe in\nreligion, and believing in Jesus doesn&#8217;t mean I believe in the religion of\nChristianity. While I accept I&#8217;ll often be lumped into these groups because I\nbelieve in God and Jesus, I know that I myself don&#8217;t subscribe to any organized\nreligion. I have in the past, and I learned my lesson.<\/p>\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\">\n<li><strong>Disaffection with a fellowship is not uncommon, but to generalize an experience in order to rationalize an action is illegitimate as rationalization, defined, is the lowering of a standard.&nbsp; In this case, as we shall see, the Biblical standard is active participation in a local fellowship.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>The Biblical designation for a believer, \u201c\u2026in God and Jesus\u2026\u201d <em>is<\/em> a Christian: used three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26; 26:28; 1 Peter 4:16). Followers of Jesus Christ were first called \u201cChristians\u201d in Antioch (Acts 11:26) because their behavior, activity, and speech were like Christ. The word \u201cChristian\u201d literally means, \u201cbelonging to the party of Christ\u201d or a \u201cfollower of Christ.\u201d<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>It is true that Christianity is not a religion (which, defined, is man\u2019s search for God), but a relationship with Christ <em>and<\/em> fellow believers.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Assuming \u201corganized religion\u201d is a reference to a local church\/fellowship, willful refusal of fellowship with believers is a violation of Hebrews 10: 24, 25 (see accompanying lesson).<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">While some say only one religion leads to God, and others\nmight say all religions lead to God, I would say the opposite: That no religion\nleads to God. They may talk of God, point to him even, and have some relevant\npoints, but, in my opinion, they do not, and can not (sic), lead fully to God;\nthe various branches and denominations of Christianity are no exception.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\"><li><strong>The equating of religion (man\u2019s search for God) with\nChristianity (God\u2019s provision for man) is incorrect;<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>\u201c\u2026in my opinion\u201d is a\ncritical admission of the author in that faith is not based in opinion but the\nprecepts and convictions of Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16);<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>In fact, according to Scripture the fuller relationship\nwith God is found <em>in<\/em> fellowship with\nbelievers (Ep. 4; Rom. 12; 1 Cor. 12) not <em>apart<\/em>\nfrom the communion of the Saints.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">The very structure religion confines itself within, along\nwith its immovable dogmas, is proof enough that it will always fail to lead\nanyone to the full reality of our boundless, cosmic-sized God. It&#8217;s clear to me\nthat God is bigger than any box a religion can set up to put him in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\"><li><strong>The author\u2019s confusion is based in a subjective experience\nvs. objective conviction;<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Objectively: 2 Peter 1:21 states, \u201cFor no prophecy was\never produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried\nalong by the Holy Spirit,\u201d which has been commended to us in the form of the\nOld and New Testament, the objective standard by which Christians are informed\nof their God and live accordingly in order to be in right relationship with Him\nwhich includes a relationship with fellow believers;&nbsp; <\/strong><\/li><li><strong>&nbsp;Subjectively: 2\nCorinthians 2:5 is where Paul states, \u201c\u2026so that your faith might <em>not<\/em> rest in the wisdom of men but in the\npower of God.\u201d&nbsp; <\/strong><\/li><li><strong>This is a case of speculation vs. revelation \u2013 the only\nsure word we have is the Scripture which allows us to reject incorrect notions\nrelated to God, our faith and subsequent conduct.&nbsp; Hence, recommending a spiritual walk outside\nthe bounds of the church is rejected based upon Hebrews 10.<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Paul states specifically that within the church, not\noutside of it, is God\u2019s cosmic nature begun to be comprehended, \u201c\u2026so that\nChrist may dwell in your hearts through faith\u2014that you, being rooted and\ngrounded in love, <em>may have strength to\ncomprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height\nand depth, and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge\u2026.\u201d <\/em>&nbsp;Ephesians 3:17-19.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>While it seems popular to think Jesus came to build an army\nof sorts for God, and to then organize his followers to build him an empire on\nearth, I personally don&#8217;t subscribe to such a concept. In fact, I think Christ\ncame to do the opposite; I believe he came to end empire thinking and bring\neach of us back to a personal, individual experience of God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\">\n<li><strong>In fact, Christ came to <em>build<\/em> His church.&nbsp; The church\nis the body of Christ, of which He is the head. Ephesians 1:22-23 says, \u201cAnd\nGod placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over\neverything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills\neverything in every way.\u201d <\/strong><\/li><li><strong>The body of Christ is made up of <em>individual<\/em> believers in Jesus Christ (Acts chapter 2), hence one\ncannot divorce himself from the church of Christ and claim to be in right relationship\nwith Him.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>I believe it is a divine experience that is not based on us\n(as some kind of Christian army) conquering the world on his behalf, but\nrather, it is the experience of Christ himself conquering our individual heart\nwith the victory of his love. For it is only when his love has fully overcome\nour hearts that we can truly be led into a divine understanding of God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\"><li><strong>John 15:5 Jesus states, \u201cI am the vine; you are the\nbranches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for\napart from me you can do nothing\u201d which affirms the author\u2019s relationship\nbetween God and His followers, but also undermines the author\u2019s argument in\nthat:<\/strong><ul><li><strong>One must be in love and thereby in submission to Christ\nin order to gain understanding therefore\u2026<\/strong><\/li><\/ul><ul><li><strong>&nbsp;Being in\nsubmission one must be a member of a fellowship of believers per the command of\nHis Word as, \u201capart from Him\u201d, we cannot know God in His fuller expression<\/strong><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>So what does a personal relationship with God feel like? It\nfeels personal, that&#8217;s what. It&#8217;s a relationship that you and God experience\nand understand. It&#8217;s not a corporate relationship. Yes, many others also have a\npersonal relationship, and that&#8217;s a beautiful thing, just as connecting with\nother believers is a beautiful experience, but I don&#8217;t expect their\nrelationship to God to be a cookie cutter of mine. Vocabulary that describes my\nfaith and belief is &#8212; and I think should be &#8212; different. The way I connect\nwith my divine Father naturally varies to others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\"><li><strong>The relationship with God is <em>both<\/em> personal and corporate as we have demonstrated.&nbsp; <\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Salvation is not subjective, but Biblically proscriptive\n&#8211; Conviction: John 16:8; Contrition: Isaiah 66:2; Confession: Romans 10:9-10; <\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Our \u2018vocabulary\u2019 related to faith and belief is not subjective,\nbut also Biblically prescribed: \u201c19 And we have the prophetic word more fully\nconfirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a\ndark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20\nknowing this first of all, that <em>no\nprophecy of Scripture comes from someone&#8217;s own interpretation.<\/em> 21 For no\nprophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they\nwere carried along by the Holy Spirit.\u201d \u2013 2 Peter 1:19-21<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>The thoughts and questions that God stirs my heart with &#8212;\nand the answers I find &#8212; are never going to be the same as everyone else,\nbecause my relationship with God is personal. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\"><li><strong>Hebrews 13:8 tells us, \u201cJesus Christ is the same\nyesterday and today and forever.\u201d&nbsp; <\/strong><\/li><li><strong>James 1:17 assures us, \u201cEvery good gift and every perfect\ngift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, <em>with whom is no variableness, neither shadow\nof turning.<\/em>\u201d&nbsp; <\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Clearly God\u2019s answers to life\u2019s questions are right,\ncorrect and consistent just as is His Word. <\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Therefore while every relationship with God is personal\nthe revelation of God, unique in relation to competing world views, is uniquely\nconsistent in content including vocabulary, definition and answers to life\u2019s\nquestions.&nbsp; <\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Contrary to this is organized religion. Religion creates a\ncorporate identity. When we buy into religion we end up speaking, sounding,\neven looking like everyone else within that corporate branded identity. Same\nthoughts. Same beliefs. Same well-defined doctrines; and if you step out of line\nand have questions that don&#8217;t fit that corporate identity, chances are you\nmight be silenced, or even booted out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\"><li><strong>Based upon Romans 15:5-7, this assertion could not be\nmore incorrect: \u201cMay the God of endurance and encouragement grant you to live\nin such harmony with one another, in accord with Christ Jesus, 6 <em>that together you may with one voice <\/em>glorify\nthe God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 7 Therefore welcome one another as\nChrist has welcomed you, for the glory of God.\u201d<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>In fact, \u201cwe,\u201d corporately, <em>are<\/em> to work together \u2013 proclaiming the same message as our Lord and\nthe brethren who have come before us\u2026<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Including the tenets of Scripture based upon 2 Timothy\n3:16.<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Should a disagreement arise, the objective assertions of\nScripture prove the defining factor<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Disobedience to Christ\u2019s Word and untruthfulness are to\nbe subject to church discipline, and administered in love (1 Corinthians 5:7-8)\nwith the goal of restoration.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, you know, I don&#8217;t mind if I don&#8217;t fit the corporate\nidentity of organized religion, nor do I seek membership. I&#8217;m happy to have a\nrelationship that is unique with my creator, to let go of long-held religious\nambitions, and simply live in the reality of everyday life. I simply want to\nwalk freely in each day, with an open mind to learn new things and an open\nheart to connect authentically with the world around me. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul style=\"color: #0071a1;\"><li><strong>In fact, Scripture tells us in 1 Corinthians 2:12, \u201cNow\nwe have <em>received not the spirit of the\nworld<\/em>, but the Spirit who is from God, <em>that\nwe might understand the things freely given us by God. <\/em>\u201c<\/strong><\/li><li><strong>Paul affirms in Romans 12:2: \u201cDo not be conformed to this\nworld, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may\ndiscern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.\u201d<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><p style=\"color: #0071a1;\"><strong>In short, this last\nparagraph is a statement of independence instead of interdependence to which\nGod has called us.&nbsp; \u201c<\/strong>Walking\nfreely<strong>\u201d\noutside of God\u2019s plan is to walk in bondage.&nbsp;\nTo question God\u2019s instruction is to repeat Satan\u2019s appeal to Eve: \u201cHath\nGod said?\u201d (Genesis 3:1)&nbsp; In point of\nfact, yes, God hath said; and to continue in a walk contrary to God\u2019s Word is\nnot just \u201c<\/strong>walking freely<strong>\u201d but walking in rebellion.&nbsp; Our call is to submission which, in this\ncase, is submission to Hebrews 10:24 &amp; 25.<\/strong><\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The following post has been fully downloaded with reply provided by Pastor Raker, his observations in blue text; Mick Mooney\u2019s original text in black: Why I Choose to Live My Faith Outside of Organized Religion By Mick Mooney Posted: 12\/17\/2014 3:08 pm EST Updated: 12\/17\/2014 3:59 pm EST&nbsp;&nbsp; Let me start by making my premise [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[526],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v22.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Church Adherence - Grace Evangelical Free Church<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Church Adherence - Grace Evangelical Free Church\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The following post has been fully downloaded with reply provided by Pastor Raker, his observations in blue text; 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